Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Dave! I actually have not listened to Andy Stanley, but I should give him a try. There’s so much good stuff and wisdom out there. I think the key is not getting caught up in the celebrity-pastor idol worship that is so prevalent these days in the evangelical church. I don’t say that judgmentally — I’m guilty of it myself. And it’s because I’m still smarting from the pain it ultimately caused me, I’ve been reticent to listen to sermons and podcasts and stuff like that.